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KKx4 Mystic Gohan vs. Buutenks
Topic Started: Jun 5 2018, 02:32 AM (703 Views)
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If Gohan had been capable of using Kaioken when he fought Buutenks, would he have been able to win?

Round 1- It takes the same strain on Gohan as it did Goku in the Saiyan Arc

Round 2- It doesn't take any extra energy

Buu went from being dominated by to dominating Gohan by absorbing someone who was around Gohan's power level, so the gap between them is not all that huge. I think a quadruple Kaioken puts Gohan above Buu enough so that he wins both rounds. What you think?
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Boo is less than 2x stronger than Gohan. Gohan wins with x2, let alone x4.
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Super Boo: 100
SSJ3 Gotenks: 110
Gohan: 135
Bootenks: 210
Boohan: 235
KKx4 Gohan: 540

He has to be very swift in round 1 due to the immense strain. Round 2 may as well be SSJ Vegetto vs Boo. Gohan can idle around and one-shot at any time of his choice.

Overall a massive stomp in Gohan's favor.
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Yeah, a Kaioken x2 would probably reverse the roles here and make it so that Gohan is in the winning position. Buutenks was clearly stronger but he was still making an effort to resist/block attacks while his opponent continued getting up for a little while.

Kaioken x3 would turn this into a butchery akin to Recoome fighting Gohan and Krillin. But if Gohan is limited to just Kaioken x4 with the strain in scenario 1, I think he would need to end the fight quickly since the Kaioken x4 has a very limited duration of time for using. If he doesn't completely obliterate Buu with an attack like the Kamehameha then the monster will just regenerate himself and then Gohan will be virtually helpless.
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Both Super Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks are noticeably weaker then Mystic Gohan, Buutenks is SSJ3 Gotenks power adding onto Super Buu's, making Buutenks not even twice as strong as Mystic Gohan, so a Kaioken x4 Mystic Gohan would be like over 3x stronger then Buutenks, Kaioken x2 would be more then enough to reverse the roles and have Gohan wreck Buutenks
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Gohan stomps hard, Kaioken x2 even would be more than enough.
Edited by Son-Goku, Jun 5 2018, 02:41 PM.
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Gohan loses tbh. Despite his massive power advantage, he'd do something stupid and get absorbed.
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That's a fair point, Gohan is consistently too cocky. It's the reason Goku died and the reason he even got absorbed in the first place.
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Boo: 20
Gotenks: 20
Gohan: 75
Gotenks-Boo: 400
Gohan KKx4: 300

The result is no different. Gohan still gets stomped.
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KKx2 would be sufficient for Gohan to thoroughly overpower Buuhan, yet alone Buutenks. With KKx4, he'd absolutely obliterate Buutenks.
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Jun 5 2018, 05:02 PM
Boo: 20
Gotenks: 20
Gohan: 75
Gotenks-Boo: 400
Gohan KKx4: 300

The result is not different. Gohan still gets stomped.
How does Buu have such a massive boost from absorbing Gotenks?
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Jun 5 2018, 05:55 PM
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Jun 5 2018, 05:02 PM
Boo: 20
Gotenks: 20
Gohan: 75
Gotenks-Boo: 400
Gohan KKx4: 300

The result is no different. Gohan still gets stomped.
How does Buu have such a massive boost from absorbing Gotenks?
20 x 20 = 400
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But he says he's "adding" Gotenks' power to his own. Although I'm not sure if anything contradicts the idea that his power is multiplied after said addition.
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I think Six Tails may be on to something.
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I'm not seeing it. If Buu's absorption was multiplicative rather than additive, then Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed) would've god-stomped Ultimate Gohan. Even if we assume that Piccolo became so weak over the seven years that he became weaker than 100% Frieza (just to prevent this thread from turning into a discussion regarding Piccolo vs. Base Saiyans), then it'd be far more than enough to brutalize Ultimate Gohan. Hell, we can even give Ultimate Gohan a 5x gap over Super Buu (I personally don't believe Gohan is anywhere near this, closer to a 1.5x gap)

Piccolo (< Frieza): 100,000,000

Super Buu (hypothetical): 20,000,000,000

Ultimate Gohan (hypothetical): 100,000,000,000

Super Buu (x Piccolo): 2e^18



This is all of course assuming this isn't an inside joke (I get the feeling it is)
Edited by Vance, Jun 5 2018, 08:54 PM.
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